Sunday, September 4, 2011

Shout'n out, and poop on a grand scale


Your captions, motivational and de-, were all winners in my book. Steve gets the award for Extraordinary Effort:

I figured this out at 4 A.M.  

HeyDuke50 pointed us toward clivus multrum, which then pointed us toward Clivus Multrum.

Clivus Multrim, Inc.
Poop rolls downhill, and now here's the technology to prove it.

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Teresa Evangeline said...

The world of poop just keeps expanding for me. However, it looks suspiciously like a two-story two-holer, which never seemed like a good idea to me. Unless I used the upper story.

The rolling down hill theory holds.

The Good Luck Duck said...

I am seein' what you're sayin'. I can see a problem with that long-drop situation having no check valve-type device from the first floor. Maybe they explain that away.

Merikay said...

Being on a septic system that we keep "healthy" with regular additions of suitable bacteria, I guess ours goes back to nature too. We just don't have to distribute it The down hill trees are very happy. We have the sludge pumped out every few years.

The Good Luck Duck said...

The great part is that, just about once a day per person, you're adding suitable bacteria (to the tune of 25% of the total bulk deposited). Septic tanks are much lower-impact, IMO, than municipal systems, although I've never studied the difference. Just the fact that manure doesn't have to go off-site to be processed is big.

Anonymous said...

It's not about the poop, it's about the water. The earth does not have an endless, convenient, clean source of water for humans to waste as they will. I can't believe that RVers can be squeamish about composted humanure when they are carrying around a 1/2 full black tank all the time!

Called out by name in a post! I'm so honored. I'd love to have a blog, but for now the topic would be "Ways to avoid scraping & painting the Garage" A topic guaranteed to put readers to sleep.

I do have a Google account which allows me to post comments on some blogs, but it always tells me I don't have the right to post on yours and asks if I'd like to sign out and sign back in with a different (better) logon - or something, I really don't read much after I've been denied posting. Some blogs I can choose anonymous other blogs I can post at will, other blogs I can't post at all. Maybe I will create several google accounts. Perhaps I could start flame wars with myself on multiple topics. . . food for thought.

Catching up on your posts today has provided me with a good amount of work avoidance. Yay! LG

The Good Luck Duck said...

The earth does not have an endless, convenient, clean source of water for humans to waste as they will.

Amen, sister.

Four Windows with a View said...

Originally, my comment was going to be...Huh???...then I got smart and went back a post to figure out what you were talking about. Then it reminded me of a question a non-RVr friend of mine asked...where does the stuff go after you dump your gray and black holding tanks? Good question and I don't know. She meant RV parks, specifically. Does anybody out there know where it goes?

Steve said...

oh gawd ... who knew ... zombie humor rated with alternative poo disposal. lol

heyduke50 said...

when i worked for Texas parks and wildlife the landscape architect and I had the first ones installed at a primitive site at Enchanted Rock State Park in the mid eighties...

squawmama said...

Man you guys are really into poop these lol

The Good Luck Duck said...

Jeana, I don't have any first-hand knowledge - I hope someone can speak with authority to your question. If they're not equipped with septic, or on a sewer line, though, the answer has to be that it's hauled out occasionally and taken to a sewage treatment plant.

Steve, you're welcome.

Duke, that's cool. I see that the park still boasts composting toilets - are they the same ones installed way back then?

Donna, who isn't? :D

Sherry said...

Keep all this composting poop info coming. I'm counting on you for all the FACTS!

Levonne said...

A compost toilet. Well, outdoor toilets (outhouses) are compost toilets. This sort of takes that idea and moves it inside. Hmmmm... I am going to give this a little more thought. There for a minute, I thought this was a system for indoor heating (gas energy).

The Good Luck Duck said...

Sherry, I can excrete it as fast as you can read it!

Levonne ... HAHAHA! I think omitting that was a design flaw.

Wild Blue Yonder said...

We saw a Discovery channel show the other day on how they get rid of poop on Cruise ships. They burn it! It actually turns into ashes which they bag up and dispose of when they dock somewhere. Wow. who knew? I guess I wanted to know as I have been on two cruises and wondered when I flushed just where that was going?
Now I feel so "in the know" on that subject.
Composting is a great idea for sure.

The Good Luck Duck said...

Really! Burn it? Amazing. A cruise ship would be a real test for any disposal system so it didn't turn into a poop deck.

Tesaje said...

I investigated the Incinolet toilet that burns the waste. The energy requirements are pretty high so it was a non-starter for RVs. Also I read a lot of complaints about odor as it was burning the stuff up. A cruise ship is running engines all the time so they can generate the required electricity and they are out on the ocean where the winds can blow the stench away and not bother neighbors. So, I think the composting toilet is a better solution if you have the room for it.

The Good Luck Duck said...

Is that true of the Envirolet, too? We researched different toilet types before we decided on the Nature's Head. There were some reasons:

1) Many types did not separate the urine, and depended on electricity to evaporate it off so the tank didn't overflow. Sun Mar is one of those. We heard scary stories of losing power and having the contents flood the bathroom.

2) Incinerating toilets also took a lot of energy.

3) The Loveable Loo was our running favorite until we met the Nature's Head. The LL would be great for stationary homesteaders who had space to let things settle and compost, but we felt the "product" would be too bulky too fast.

4) The Nature's Head has minimal energy requirements. We run a solar fan and a small DC fan, although one or the other would probably do the trick.